Mining for methane on Mars

9/29/24:



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In order to streamline my blogging efforts, I am employing AI in order to do a lot of my grunt work.

Sorry to be a hypo-twit, but time is short.

Me

Please characterize smectite, in terms of it's chemical composition and it's mining potential on Mars, or for element extraction



GAB AI

Smectite is a group of phyllosilicate minerals with a general chemical formula of

X0.3Y1.7[(Al, Mg, Li)3(Si, Al)4O10(OH)2].

Here, X represents exchangeable cations like Na+, Ca2+, K+, or Mg2+, and Y represents divalent cations like Mg2+, Fe2+, or Zn2+.

In terms of mining potential, smectite is a common mineral on Earth, known for its use in ceramics, paints, and as a component in some plastics. On Mars, smectite is also likely to be present due to its abundance on Earth and the similar geological processes that may have occurred on Mars. Smectite can be found in the Martian soil, particularly in the clay-rich regions.

Its presence suggests past water activity on Mars, as smectite forms in the presence of water.

Mining smectite on Mars could potentially be valuable for creating construction materials, as well as for use in the production of plastics and other industrial applications.

The extraction process would likely involve mining the clay-rich regions and then processing the smectite through a series of steps, including crushing, grinding, and chemical separation to isolate the desired cations. However, the mining and extraction of smectite on Mars would require further research and development to determine its feasibility and potential economic benefits.



Gemini AI ( Google )



Me:

As is commonly known, SpaceX wants to colonize Mars. Recently there has been news about methane being present in connection with smectite clays. Please discuss how this methane could be extracted, and or how to extract elements from the smectite for use on a potential Mars colony.

Gemini AI ( Google )

## Extracting Methane and Elements from Martian Smectite Clay

The discovery of methane trapped within smectite clay on Mars presents exciting possibilities for future colonization efforts. Both the methane and the clay itself could be valuable resources.

### Extracting Methane * **Heat Extraction:** One of the simplest methods is to heat the clay. As the temperature rises, the methane trapped within the clay's structure will be released. This can be achieved using solar energy, a common resource on Mars, or by burning other fuels. * **Vacuum Extraction:** Another method involves creating a vacuum around the clay. This lower pressure can cause the methane to be released more easily. This technique might be particularly effective if the clay is heated at the same time. * **Chemical Extraction:** Certain chemicals can be used to react with the clay, causing the methane to be liberated. This method could be more efficient but might require additional processing steps to remove the chemicals.

### Extracting Elements from Smectite Clay

Smectite clay is rich in various elements, including silicon, aluminum, magnesium, and iron. These elements could be crucial for building structures, manufacturing tools, and producing other essential materials on Mars. * **Thermal Decomposition:** Heating the clay to very high temperatures can break down its structure, releasing the individual elements. This could be achieved using a solar furnace or a plasma torch. * **Chemical Leaching:** Certain chemicals can be used to dissolve specific elements from the clay. For example, strong acids can be used to extract aluminum. * **Electrolysis:** If the clay is suspended in a liquid, an electric current can be passed through it to extract specific elements. This technique is often used to extract metals from ores.

### Challenges and Considerations

While these methods seem promising, several challenges must be addressed: * **Energy Consumption:** Extracting resources from Martian clay requires significant energy, which must be sourced sustainably. Solar power is a viable option, but it may not be sufficient for large-scale operations. * **Equipment and Technology:** Developing the necessary equipment and technology to extract resources on Mars will be a major engineering challenge. * **Environmental Impact:** Any mining or extraction activities on Mars must be conducted with extreme care to avoid damaging the planet's fragile environment.

The discovery of methane and smectite clay on Mars represents a significant step forward in our understanding of the planet's potential as a habitable world. By developing efficient methods for extracting these resources, future Mars colonists may be able to establish a self-sufficient society.





9/30/24:

Me:

There's been discussion recently about clay-rich regions on Mars. Please show where these clay-rich regions have been located on that planet.



Gemini AI

Unfortunately, I can't help you find clay-rich regions on Mars using Google Maps. Google Maps is designed to help you find places on Earth, and it doesn't have data for other planets.

However, I can provide you with some information that I found on the web. There are several clay-rich regions on Mars, including:

* **Cerberus Fossae:** This region is located in the southern hemisphere of Mars and is home to a number of clay-rich deposits.

* **Echus Chasma:** This canyon is located in the eastern part of the Chryse Planitia and is also home to clay-rich deposits.

* **Nili Fossae:** This region is located in the northern hemisphere of Mars and is home to a number of clay-rich deposits, including some of the oldest known rocks on Mars.

* **Opportunity Rover landing site:** The Opportunity rover landed in a region called Meridiani Planum, which is known for its clay-rich deposits.

You can learn more about these regions by searching for them online or by looking at images from Mars rovers.

What would happen if you used a gas gun in space?

The topic has come up on the main blog, but I will post these brainstorm type post on this here blog instead.

Anyway, if a gas gun can expel an object at an escape velocity ( if memory serves ), then it might be useful as a propulsion system in space. That is, the recoil of the huge gas gun could be harvested for delta-v for a rocket. Presumably, it would be better than a rocket, but the effective velocity would be much higher.

Or would it be higher? I'm not savvy enough on these calculations. Perhaps a mathemetically inclined person could answer this. If a gas gun emitted a "shell" that massed out at 1000 kilos, then what kind of delta V could you get out of it to propel a payload through space?

It would depend upon a few considerations, such as the mass of the spacecraft. But also the amount of thrust in the metric system ( newtons ? ). The rocket equation may be able to determine the ISP, I would think.

It's possible that it may be superior to burning the fuel and sending it out a rocket nozzle. If the hydrogen gas were heated more than the heat of combustion from burning it, that would indeed be the case.

How to heat up the gas? Questions, questions.

Somebody smarter than I am could figure it out.

Update, 9/22/24 ( Zorin OS)

9/29/24:

Made an attempt. There's something hanging it up. It's an OS issue, I think. Trying to clean it up, and re-use it. That's a micro-ssd, or whatever it is called. It had Tail OS, and now I'm tryng to use it for Zorin OS. Tails isn't very useful, you know. Not for me, anyhoo. If I master this problem, I could use it for whatever I want. Famous last words???

9/28/24

The goal is to getting Zorin on a USB stick. I've been studying a video on how to do that, and I may make the attempt soon. Indeed, I already have it on a stick, but it is only an installation disk. I can't use it for anything substantial, so it is pretty much useless right now.





9/22/24:

Let's see if I can get through a post without a typo.

Normally I don't write about computers on this particular blog. Perhaps better here than the main blog.

For at least a year now, I've been trying to implement the ideas from Braxman. The latest thing I did is to try the Zorin OS, which is a Linux distribution.

So it looks like I'm not doing anything, but I am.

That is all.

Tried to cook on battery power

I tried cooking on the egg cooker, which draws about 300 watts. This was back at the old place, more than a year ago. Maybe two. By the way, there was success in cooking a meatball, if memory serves.

This was a step up, but it doesn't work well. Electricity does get to the hot plate, but it draws about 1200 watts ( if memory serves ). Quite the voltage drop at the inverter, and it started to whine loudly.

There was also a smoke rising from the wires. Uh, oh! I had to do a quick shutdown.

Hopefully, no damage done. But that may be wishful thinking. I will inspect it a bit later. There's a lot of food waiting to be cooked.

Update, 9/26/24

Since I stopped with the dehumidifier, I haven't used the solar panels for anything.

Today, I moved the small battery close to the door, and hooked up the small inverter so that I could use the computer with the power off that battery.

Cool.

This involved moving the raspberry pi computer from the bedroom to the living room area.

If I get insomnia again, I'll have to go to the living room to use the raspberry pi computer.

That's an incentive to get my butt to sleep. Won't be fiddling around with the machine for too long and then there's a problem getting asleep.

Update, 9/18/24

9/22/24: Yikes!

I made a boo-boo... I transposed a nine for a six. oops...

Nothing new to add here at the moment besides that. The blog ain't dead yet.

I just don't want to be burdened by what has been. bwah, hah, hah

9/18/24: The focus has been so much upon water and power subjects that there isn't enough attention paid to other subjects.

This morning, I checked a tree on the property, and there's some berries on it. I think these are hackberries, which are said to be common in these parts. Indeed, there's more trees like this in the immediate vicinity.

I took a berry off the tree, because they seem to be ripening. I won't eat it, of course. It hasn't been positively identified yet. But it is highly likely to be a hackberry tree, and its berries are starting to ripen up.

There's a lot to learn about these berries. I learned something just now. They are very hard inside. I made the mistake of taking a metal object and trying to smash it, and it bent the metal. Imagine what that would do to your teeth.

It has a thin coating that is said to be sweet. The indigenous peoples of this region used to subsist upon hackberries. They ground them up into a paste and prepared them for eating; perhaps by cooking, but I'm not sure about that.

There's a lot of cacti around here. Those have ripened awhile back. A local supermarket prepares these for consumption and put them on sale. I haven't tried any.

Changing habits is hard. But it may become necessary if times get especially hard.

Update, 9/15/24

Moved the swamp cooler out and moved the washer inside. The washer is light enough to lift up and carry outside a short distance so that it can be used to do some pre-washing. The battery needs charging, so the solar powered battery is being used to charge up the lead acid battery that I'm using for the washing machine.

Washing clothes is another way to use the solar panels. Then hang the clothes out on a clothes line. Hey, that takes you back in time, eh? Clothes lines used to be quite common. Not so much now.

I put the waste water from washing on an ant-hill. Insects do not react well to detergents. It messes up their oily external skeletal structure, and makes it hard for them to breathe properly. Just thought of something. Insects cannot tolerate boron. I noticed that Borax has boron in it, so the use of this type of waste water on ant beds may actually be quite effective. If they don't drown, they'll die of boron poisoning.

Update, 9/9/24

This thing gets away from me pretty easily. Almost a week and no posts. Nothing is happening. Just checking in.

Took down the water filtration

It's pretty rainy lately. There's not much sun to power the dehumidifier.

So, I took it down the water filtration. Some of the set up for the solar power to the dehumidifier was taken down too. In other words, there's no power connection to run the dehumidifier, except from the grid.

The solar power station is still there. But there's not much reason to use it. It doesn't put out that much power. The dehumidifier was the only thing worth running, but it has no real job to do now.

I'll have to think up something else.

Trying the new schedule

9/1/24; 3:45 PM

It didn't last for the full three hours. The battery wasn't fully charged, and it was too discharged to continue for the last half hour.

There was plenty of water in the bucket, and it is still being consumed by the evaporative cooler as I type this. It was about as much as I had predicted.

Today was mostly cloudy, so the battery may not get fully charged. Tomorrow, I've got other things to do. So nothing tomorrow on schedule. That didn't last long.





7:13 AM

Gonna run it from 6:30 AM to 9:30 AM. Didn't get started early enough to do the 6 AM time schedule.

There were nearly 2 gallons in the bucket this morning. Happens every time I run the evaporative cooler. That proves it is mostly coming from inside. Add that to the half gallon I collected yesterday while making the run. Nearly three gallons total. By the way, I saw another way to treat water with reverse osmosis. It looks like a good deal, but it costs a lot. There's always a catch.

Anyway, with this schedule, the solar panels will get nearly an entire day's worth of light to recharge. It doesn't get enough light earlier because the sun isn't high enough to stop casting shadows over the panels. It gets light earlier, but not very much.